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Old Jan 11, 2007, 11:24 PM // 23:24   #1
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Default Drago's Flatbow or Urgoz's Longow?

ok i'm split btw these 2 bows i have them both but i don't know which to choose i mean what do u guys think is better i'm mostly and b/p farmer or interupt build but i don't know what to choose and if so then what is another good bow?
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Old Jan 12, 2007, 12:29 AM // 00:29   #2
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for B/P Flatbows are better cause they have faster fire rate and same distance and the arch is higher but isnt as biga deal cause of FW
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Old Jan 12, 2007, 12:51 AM // 00:51   #3
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It's a shame Urgoz longbow got the unique skin >_> I rarely use longbows. I'd really go with the flat.
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Old Jan 12, 2007, 04:57 AM // 04:57   #4
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In any barrage build, you will be more efficient using a vampiric weapon. It's not necessarily a bad idea to have a sundering long/flatbow, but it's really best to be used only as a secondary backup bow that is switched to when you are taking damage while attacking little or for simply when you are not attacking at all. A general rule of thumb when choosing a bow for a barrage build is:

If you will be under the effect of Favorable Winds, but no IAS:
Use a Flatbow

If you are under the effects of an IAS:
Use a hornbow (an IAS will give a greater net increase in attack speed to a hornbow, thus giving it better dps than other options)

If you are not using an IAS and are not under the effects of Fav. Winds:
Use a Long/Recurve bow or even better, adjust your build so that you will have FW and/or an IAS with you.
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Old Jan 12, 2007, 07:13 AM // 07:13   #5
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" In any barrage build, you will be more efficient using a vampiric weapon"

can you explain why that is. I have heard this before but i dont see the benefit to a Vamp bow

never mind...i see the benefit now

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Old Jan 12, 2007, 07:59 AM // 07:59   #6
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Originally Posted by XvArchonvX
In any barrage build, you will be more efficient using a vampiric weapon. It's not necessarily a bad idea to have a sundering long/flatbow, but it's really best to be used only as a secondary backup bow that is switched to when you are taking damage while attacking little or for simply when you are not attacking at all. A general rule of thumb when choosing a bow for a barrage build is:

If you will be under the effect of Favorable Winds, but no IAS:
Use a Flatbow

If you are under the effects of an IAS:
Use a hornbow (an IAS will give a greater net increase in attack speed to a hornbow, thus giving it better dps than other options)

If you are not using an IAS and are not under the effects of Fav. Winds:
Use a Long/Recurve bow or even better, adjust your build so that you will have FW and/or an IAS with you.
I run barrage build with some interupts, and needling to finish off, still i prefer a vamp recurve bow, even with favorable wind in action. I will be more certain i can interupt the faster activating skills from a distance. so when in shortbow range it still takes 0.44 seconds for an arrow to arrive, in combination with the activation time, your response time and the internet time it will be near impossible to interupt 1 second skills, for a recurve bow u have a quarter of a second less time lost on flight.

But its just personal peference, I can only agree to that, a flatbow clearly outperforms ion damage output on stationary targets.
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Old Jan 12, 2007, 02:00 PM // 14:00   #7
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I run barrage build with some interupts, and needling to finish off, still i prefer a vamp recurve bow, even with favorable wind in action. I will be more certain i can interupt the faster activating skills from a distance. so when in shortbow range it still takes 0.44 seconds for an arrow to arrive, in combination with the activation time, your response time and the internet time it will be near impossible to interupt 1 second skills, for a recurve bow u have a quarter of a second less time lost on flight.

But its just personal peference, I can only agree to that, a flatbow clearly outperforms ion damage output on stationary targets.
Flatbow users generally use either FW or RtW, so the arc is even smaller than a recurve bow's without FW/RtW so it's not a problem for interrupting.

Note: in a shortbow range, the arrow takes 0.59 secs to hit the target with a shortbow, and 0.40 with a recurve bow (http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Bow#Bow_Classes). The key for interrupting skills with a fast casting time anyway is the anticipation. If you wait for your opponent to cast it, then click your interrupt, you're likely to fail. Use the interrupt before he starts casting the skill, because you know/feel he's going to use it, having the recharge time of the skill he's going to use in mind, or knowing the typical skill chaining of his build. Try to catch Willa's Orizon of Healing as soon as he cast it for example: even if you stand next to him, you won't succeed. Count how long before he uses it again instead, and the next time distract before he starts casting it and you'll catch it.
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Old Jan 12, 2007, 02:56 PM // 14:56   #8
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depends if you like longbows or flatbows more. use a flatbow if youre using read the wind or favorable winds, otherise use a longbow. i personally prefer longbows.
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Old Jan 13, 2007, 12:25 AM // 00:25   #9
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Am i the only one in the game with a Dragos Vamp Flatbow?.....Seems as tho I never see anyone else with one.....I use it for B/P almost exclusively....it's just so fast and high damage.......
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Old Jan 13, 2007, 03:06 AM // 03:06   #10
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Am i the only one in the game with a Dragos Vamp Flatbow?.....Seems as tho I never see anyone else with one.....I use it for B/P almost exclusively....it's just so fast and high damage.......
I have 1... i just never use it.

As far as interrupting is concerned, use neither, go to the Tombs, type into trade 'WTB Elsywths Recurve Bow', buy it and never look back.

As far as Barrage/Pet is concerned, use the Flatbow. The longbows refire is slightly slower which makes your Barrage motion slightly slower, neither will really miss cos FW is up.

Really you want Vampiric or Zealous for a barrage bow though. And if your using an IAS you definatly should use a Hornbow.
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Old Jan 13, 2007, 08:21 PM // 20:21   #11
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im using my Urgoz long bow mostly for the looks of it >.>

honsetly, when theres 5 barragers and FW is up, this makes very little diffrence. for combat Vamp recurve bow is FTW.
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Old Jan 14, 2007, 09:10 PM // 21:10   #12
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can i just say this... Long bows are much better in my exp. they have a lower arch and better aim. (dnt belive me? try and test it) + the urgos long bow looks cool!
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